Madman is UP! at BMT, DK and LSF

words by Marisacat posted September 22, 2005 - 7:23pm

In the wake so much contradictory writing on the netteries and Bloggeries (Unity UNity Unity Donate Donate Donate Not on my Blogrolleriana):

we at LSF are going thru our recent archives... back when the Dems in DC blew the game to hell, filibuster, nuclear option, Brown and Owen, Gang of 14, REID, BIDEN ... the list is long. Very long.

Madman in the marketplace has brushed off and updated the all time favorite Vichy Dems...

BMT

Dkos

From the updated sections:

However, I would like to say to the bully boys who attacked those of us calling for a real fight months ago: YOU HELPED MAKE THIS HAPPEN. So excited to get marching orders from the Congressional leadership, to demand loyalty oaths, to tell us to not attack Democrats.

Another year where we could have been changing the political conversation has been lost to the cozy Washington elites, waltzing about the Dauphin's court and waving their perfumed hankies under their upturned noses when confronted by the righteous anger of the grassroots.

They quickly roped some of you into the fold to play digital ward heelers over the rest of us, we "women's studies types" and "dirty hippies" and "tin hat conspiracy theorists". You bullied and screamed and tore apart vital communties so that you could "help" the "fighting dems" to go down in flames once again.

Congratulations. Mission accomplished.

Our last best hope is perhaps the least predictable: a grieving mother who sat down in a ditch in the hopes of getting a simple question answered. All of the learning, the law degrees and grand speeches and elaborate promises offer us nothing, shamed by this angry, passionate and brave woman who stood in a ditch, amongst the heat and the bugs and facing down a lazy press and the howling attack dogs of the right.

Shame on you, Vichy Dems, and shame on your housebroken blogheelers. The stage for this latest loss was set oh those many months ago.

click on "LSF" link below to go to the home site... ;)


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Comment by artemisia posted September 22, 2005 - 8:17pm

n/t


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Comment by SallyCat posted September 22, 2005 - 10:19pm

with my low UID over at the other site.....

Recommended and rated 4's for our guy to keep our team on the playing field. ;^D

As much as I don't want to - if a big fight breaks out over 'there' let me know...I'll break my no commenting rule to fight for our voice.

UID 15821 - over there....damn it's been a long time!

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Comment by Mandos posted September 23, 2005 - 12:41am

5879 here. Except I barely ever comment or diary. So no one knows who I am :)

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Comment by SallyCat posted September 23, 2005 - 10:36am

I am known....and actually am on some hit lists by the whacko DLC types...a new badge of honor!

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Comment by Mandos posted September 23, 2005 - 11:45pm

But beware: I am polite, but I am not tame, and know few limits :)

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Comment by Marisacat posted September 23, 2005 - 3:44pm

Poster at Dkos since November 2002 as well. And a Democratic voter since MARKOS WAS BORN. No longer a Democrat as of Nov 3, 2004.

Big relief... I never cared for the embarrassment that being one was fast becoming (did not vote for Clinton in '96), and the rightward drift is decades old. Many BIG TIME DEMS never cared for the Civil Rights advancements, ERA ws a bad word, we did not get National Health (that was not welfare) from years of D conttrol of congress... the list is long.

But my opinion of the place (Dkos) for actual unfettered political discussion fell in summer of 2003... s l o w l y it morphed to a place to watch the propaganda spin. About where it is at.

LOL the above message is not x posted. And I self banned at Boo. Not interested in being told to be nice to pro lifers. Not going to waste a good blonde rage on product and fundraising locs. These, Big and Bigger Box Blogs, are ''Point of Sale'' sites.

Liberal Street Fighter

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Comment by Mandos posted September 23, 2005 - 11:44pm

As I said on another thread, I usually check out Kos for the recommended diary posts, not the main page and not the conflicts (I go elsewhere for that). So what's the scoop on your banning? I remember reading you for a long time on dKos. If you were banned for something other than, like, spewing KKK slogans or issuing death threats, then dKos really IS something other than what I thought it was. Gotta link?

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Comment by Marisacat posted September 24, 2005 - 1:25am

is a staffer in the Schumer office. It hd been asked of him in a thread the day before (wehre he was handing out "1s", a Casey Pennachio thread) and he did not respond. So I asked again. My reason for asking is spelled out in my comment, he was prone to calling Democrats and democrats "traitor" when it suited him during the Kerry run... not miscreants, not trolls but using that word on ordinary fellow posters.

I nver returned to the thread but ws emailed late that night that Humter came into the thread and excoriated me. Sometime during the night I was banned, which I found out about the next day when Wilfred (who blogs at Liberal Street Fighter too) eamiled me that we (wilfred and I) were being takem down publically on the FP by Hunter. I nver read the take down.

I doubt the 'highly manipulated for their own purposes' opinion of me held by DhinMI, Kos Armando Hunter DavidNYC (much less GregNYC, obviously a beloved poster who is not to be looked at directly) nor any other FPer past, present or those who have withdrawn (for whatever reason ) from the FP, is worth my time... LOL.

Liberal Street Fighter

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Comment by Marisacat posted September 24, 2005 - 5:54am

This appeared in my email box 50 minutes ago (from [email address deleted]). I had posted thread comments earlier this evening at LSF in answer to an inquiry about what happened from "paradox" an even longer time poster from Dkos.

Paradox, like Billmon, Soto, JJB, Marie, Colleen, Bill Rehm and others made me welcome when I arrived at DKos. The "operative class" were people like "Joey D" who, early on (jan 2004), went to Burlington. They posted as one among equals. Unlike the sort that run the place now:

FYI Nancy Drew, I'm not a staffer in Schumer's office.

A few people gave me a heads up that you are still posting bizarre
statements like this on LSF.

While I think you are certifiable, and likely suffer from some paranoid
schizo-affective disorder, I do regret seeing you get banned from
Dailykos. I enjoyed seeing you storm around the site on your
broomstick, down rating people like the evil nutjob you are.

Anyhoo, you can shout your baseless conjecture all you want, but in the
end you are the one that looks like an asshole. And, if you ever need
some info on the anti-psychotic medications your psychiatrist will
inevitably be prescribing for your, let me know (being a pharmacist and
all).

By the way, your LSF post about the event reeks of sour grapes and is
so transparent. Maybe if you admitted you made a mistake, you'd garner
some credibility. Instead you just come off looking like an angry
bitch.

Liberal Street Fighter

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Comment by TrueBlueDem posted September 24, 2005 - 6:52am

They are nothing but a bunch of lowlife hired thugs.

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Comment by boudicca posted September 24, 2005 - 3:10pm

Can't they think of any new ways to put down uppity women? A classic example here: the 'crazy/psychotic' rebuttal and the broomstick/witch one as well, of course, as the 'hysterical'

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Comment by bayprairie posted September 25, 2005 - 1:21am

In the mail you received from [email address deleted] he states:

...I think you are certifiable, and likely suffer from some paranoid schizo-affective disorder...

and goes on to say...

And, if you ever need some info on the anti-psychotic medications your psychiatrist will inevitably be prescribing for your (sic), let me know (being a pharmacist and all).

A pharmacist, speaking under an anonymous "assumed name," making a mental health diagnosis and implying a need for anti-psychotic medication appears to me to be violating, at the very least, the spirit of the ethical code controlling his profession. An ethical code, I would assume, he swore an oath to uphold.


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Comment by James Benjamin posted September 25, 2005 - 2:49pm

My impression of old Greg was definitely not favorable. I'm sure at some point on Kos I either tangled with the dude, or tried to uprate some posts that the asshole had tried to troll-rate. The guy's a piece of work. I wonder what his state ethics board would think of his unsolicited "diagnosis" as well as the apparent email harrassment of you. Very unprofessional on his part.

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Comment by Mandos posted September 24, 2005 - 9:33pm

...I'm still left with some doubts. See, I belong to a Canadian progressive discussion board where asking that sort of question persistantly IS explicitly a bannable offense. Directly putting someone in a position where they're under pressure to out their real-life jobs/identities, even political ones, is off-limits, although you'd get a couple of temporary suspensions before banning. And I can see why.

Nevertheless, I can also see how it might have been convenient for them to step up to the maximum penalty quickly, and the email sucks too.

And also, I tested the waters. I recently attempted to argue with Armando on another topic that's of interest to me,

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/24/185911/825

(wherein I express my belief that it can be dangerous to use the plight of women in other countries to score domestic political points.) You can draw your own conclusions---seriously, either way.

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Comment by Marisacat posted September 24, 2005 - 10:31pm

I am not a repetitious person...I am not a harrasser. You asked, I answered. I doubt you have read the site very closely, nor for as long as I. In fact I believe you have said you stayed away from a lot. You ahve perceived a slice.

I never harrassed anyone in my life.... It is against my nature. It requires too much energy.

GregNYC has multiple emails sitting in my in box, they streamed in all day from him. They will sit there and be deleted, unread...

I am not in need of his scatter shot.

And if I may say so, I don't know you from eve. Nor adam.

I hve read (and engaged) Armando since the primaries. And he knows precisely what I Think of the site, I have told him my opinions of it, that I use it, over the past year or more, to observe the home grown propaganda...

Liberal Street Fighter

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Comment by Mandos posted September 24, 2005 - 10:51pm

I can't say that I have a full picture of what was going on there. If I took that bit out of context I'd have a certain interpretation of it, but I'm fully aware that it's likely to be wrong. I used to argue with Armando a little bit too, and now I know a little bit more of what you're talking about: he's a lot more interested in the sound bite than in the issue, but this is pretty corrosive to democracy---I'm still ambivalent though about the tactical debate here, however.

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Comment by Marisacat posted September 24, 2005 - 11:47pm

Really ti is not it is the same crap over and over.... and then over again.

You are white (I presume, but it is a good guess) and male. Armando, the hierarchy at that site in fact, is very predictable from a pattern of behavior.

Your conversations with him (particularly wrt issues that concern women and the welfare of women) would not be of real value to me to read... so I did not follow the link. Time is scarce and I make no apology. As I said I have read and engaged Armando for years now.

I realise you are commenting in an open thread, tho with little background. But that does make the critical difference.

Have a pleasant evening...

Liberal Street Fighter

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Comment by Mandos posted September 25, 2005 - 12:06am

[looks at self] Not white. A hint: I have a name that could in their cause me trouble at airports (though not yet, thankfully). In fact, because it was about a part of the world from which my parents come that I decided (actually after years) to jump in and argue with him.

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Comment by TrueBlueDem posted September 25, 2005 - 6:01am

"They argue and fight by day in front of the cameras, then slap each other on the back over drinks at night..."

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